The Guardian becomes more and more a nauseating, hypocritical rag, staffed by a gaggle of posturing, pretentious charlatans, hubristic and precious to the core. I suppose the end of every civilisation is marked and hastened when shallow coteries such as these seize the reins of influence and power. Future generations will scratch their heads and ask why a people would allow themselves to be so debased. I don't think we know either.

"Indefatigable." I like that.

I call this Skunk journalism.

In defence of the Guardian, this thread has been created by visitors to the website, not by any members of its staff. To call it journalism is of course ridiculous. A cursory read of the entries reveal that the contributors are on the whole stupid, deluded, and semi-literate. At least some of the entries point this fact out.

The Guardian has a clear policy on postings to its site, including one that says "While we encourage a wide range of views, we will consider removing any content that other users might find extremely offensive or threatening."

Perhaps someone should contact the Guardian and point this clause out to them.

The right should also beware the charge of hypocrisy. Melanie is constantly making references to instances of casual anti-semitism in the media, and yet she points the reader to a web site where there are similarly abusive generalisations made about the French.

The common theme in all this is a lack of respect for another person's point of view. Genuine debate has been replaced by a coarse slanging match which helps no one.

The point is not that the info is somehow excusable because it's not the Guardian's staff posting it - it's that the Guardian is ***hosting*** this nonsense, and that it took an enormously long time to remove this nutbaggery.

I might expect this on Indymedia - there's no rational control there - but the Guardian is still considered a rational publication (if lefty). To allow this to continue, especially after so many people called/wrote to complain, is a sign that the Guardian thinks that talk of killing the President is somehow, cute.

What it is, is sick.

Guardian moderators have removed the thread - after it was highlighted on LGF, OpinionJournal, AndrewSullivan, and here.

Anyone who thinks they left the thread up so long out of concern for freedom of speech should bear in mind that the forum moderators threatened to sue me when I made a post there saying that Gary Younge and Yasmin Alibhai-Brown were obsessed with race. Clearly the Guardian thinks planning the murder of a nation's President is not an offence on the same scale as criticising left-wing journalists.

LFG - indefatigable ? Laughable would surely be a better term ?

I love coming to Brtiain and next month I will be there for a week. However given the current British "intellectual" climate in which anti Americanism and anti Semitism seem to be running rampant amongst the "elites", for the first time I feel as if I am venturing into enemy territory.

JohnD a moron? Surely "fuckwit" would be a more accurate description???

I was banned from Guardian Talk for suggesting that some, like myself, found the sexual practices of homosexuals dangerous and disgusting.

Killing the POTUS though...

Today the Graun is itself pursuing the notion that someone might just be decent enough to take out George Bush. See the interview with Rickie Lee Jones, an anti-Dubya critic of extreme views, who is asked by her interviewer if she would be prepared to do just that.

Talk about trying to put ideas in people's heads ...

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